06-01-03 15:18:02 <WalterOS2> Has everyone got a copy of the agenda?  The URL in the announcement is incorrect.
06-01-03 15:39:49 <WalterOS2> Now we should get to the business of Warpdoctor.
06-01-03 15:40:56 <WalterOS2> Agenda Item A. Old Business
06-01-03 15:41:12 <WalterOS2>   1.  Updating HCL.
06-01-03 15:41:41 <WalterOS2> Gord, Bill: Have you given any thought to updating the *contents* of the HCL?
06-01-03 15:42:43 <WalterOS2> i.e. I'll bet a lot of the new printer drivers are in there. :-)
06-01-03 15:44:03 <wdl> Walter:  Yes.  But Gord was collecting things...??
06-01-03 15:44:21 <Gord> I still have the collection.
06-01-03 15:45:23 <wdl> How do he *not* compete with the several sites already doing a *very* good job at HCL-like info???
06-01-03 15:45:30 <wdl> Or do we care?
06-01-03 15:45:52 <wdl> Or...  How can we cooperate with them?
06-01-03 15:47:26 <MADecsSMP> You speaking about Jonas Buys' site?
06-01-03 15:47:34 <WalterOS2> First, I don't think we want to worry about competing with them.
06-01-03 15:48:11 <wdl> That's one.  There are a coupla others.  Can't cite off the top-of-head right now.
06-01-03 15:48:13 <MADecsSMP> I asked him about cooperating with WarpDoctor and he was somewhat hostile about it so I let it drop.  He wants to do his own thing.
06-01-03 15:48:18 <WalterOS2> Cooperating with others would be nice, but in many (most?) cases it's not practical.
06-01-03 15:49:05 <wdl> So we just do our thing, and let the "marketplace" prevail?
06-01-03 15:49:07 <WalterOS2> Jonas' goal is somewhat different from ours, anyway.
06-01-03 15:50:56 <wdl> ANYway...  Seems like we must allow for multiple hardware entries.  'Cause there may be multiple drivers.
06-01-03 15:51:14 <wdl> On some machines, one may not work -- another will.
06-01-03 15:51:36 <wdl> Need to  cite *all* tested drivers??
06-01-03 15:53:24 <Gord> That WOULD make it most useful.

06-01-03 16:14:03 <MADecsSMP> The June Newsletter is up if anyone is interested
06-01-03 16:14:19 <Rat-Salad> Mark... VERY good eCS 1.1 review
06-01-03 16:14:30 <MADecsSMP> thanks
06-01-03 16:41:43 <WalterOS2> BTW, Mark.  During my last reinstall of 1.1, I decided to take what you said about well Mozilla 1.3b worked seriously, bit the bullet, removed IWB and installed Mozilla instead.  I was even able to do a bit of twiddling so that I could keep the IWB bookmarks.
06-01-03 16:42:23 <WalterOS2> I have definitely not been sorry. :-)  I don't think it has crashed on a web page yet.
06-01-03 16:42:29 <Rat-Salad> 1.4 rc1 is out now.. wonder how it is
06-01-03 16:42:35 <MADecsSMP> hehehehe, I stopped using Mozilla now, and use FireBird.  But I still think Mozilla is better then IWB
06-01-03 16:42:50 <WalterOS2> And with the turbo feature, the speed is reasonable as well.
06-01-03 16:43:09 <Rat-Salad> of course it's better than IWB... IWB is based on Mozilla 0.9.8 if I remember right
06-01-03 16:43:17 <MADecsSMP> I may go back to Mozilla though if I can't get FireBird to work from MR2ICE