04-20-103 12:12:25 All: FYI, I've put the "corrected" HCL input pages up to http://pws.prserv.net/wdl/hcl/input.html 04-20-103 12:13:17 The "input" correctly links to "linput", and vice versa - for convenience. 04-20-103 12:13:28 I need some help, if anyone can spare some time 04-20-103 12:13:48 Doing what? 04-20-103 12:14:04 I need a list of companies that make hardware, and OS/2 software 04-20-103 12:14:22 List of "cpmpany name","url" 04-20-103 12:14:37 Hardware that comes with OS/2 drivers or all that work with OS/2 04-20-103 12:14:59 All that work with OS/2. 04-20-103 12:15:28 The list will be put into a drop down/pick list for assigning a company to a driver, hardware item, or software, or book 04-20-103 12:15:31 JNC, Orac: are you interested? 04-20-103 12:15:53 It doesn't have to be complete. Obviously that would take a very long time. 04-20-103 12:16:05 Just as many as we can get in a reasonable amount of time. 04-20-103 12:16:39 SciTech, Matrox, IBM, Intel, Adobe, ATI, etc. 04-20-103 12:16:55 Covers a lot of area, harddrives, motherboards, soundcards, controller cards, ect ect ect. 04-20-103 12:17:08 yeah - it does doesn't it 04-20-103 12:17:54 You can find a list of OS/2 compatible hardware on http://www.jonasbuys.easynet.be 04-20-103 12:18:13 Good point. 04-20-103 12:18:27 How much information does he provide for each driver? 04-20-103 12:19:56 You can check it on 04-20-103 12:19:57 http://www.jonasbuys.easynet.be/os2/os2chl.txt 04-20-103 12:20:31 Everything is tested to work with OS/2 or it doesn't make it to the list. 04-20-103 12:21:16 Doug: Is that enough info for what you want? 04-20-103 12:22:31 I just checked and on his website it says the list is copyright Jonas Buys. I'm sure if you ask him he'll give you permission to use it. 04-20-103 12:24:07 I've actually been thinking about that for awhile, but I don't know if the information is in a form where it would be very helpful to us. It would be a start, though. 04-20-103 12:25:31 Yeah - is that the same site you mentioned a couple of weeks ago? 04-20-103 12:25:48 Doug: How helpful do you think that information would be to you? 04-20-103 12:26:05 I don't think the information from that site is very helpful at all 04-20-103 12:26:14 Maybe you access it with a different browser. 04-20-103 12:26:28 All he does is list whether a hardware item works with OS/2 04-20-103 12:26:59 It doesn't tell you HOW to make the thing work with OS/2, or list where to get the driver, or anything that would cause you to look at a web site in the first place 04-20-103 12:27:13 The driver is the key thing. 04-20-103 12:27:33 His purpose is to show how many hardware items work with OS/2 - not to help with installing anything 04-20-103 12:27:34 For some stuff (harddrives, motherboards, ect) don't need a driver or do anything special. 04-20-103 12:27:44 Very true 04-20-103 12:27:52 Withoug a functional driver, a piece of hardware is just so much junk. 04-20-103 12:28:01 There is a real question on it we should bother to list that stuff at all 04-20-103 12:29:32 It would be nice if we could get Jonas involved in WD somehow, but I don't think that's likely to happen. 04-20-103 12:29:58 In WD our emphasis is on software and drivers. 04-20-103 12:31:04 As I know Jonas does a lot of testing him self I'll ask him whether he has a list of drivers. 04-20-103 12:31:43 He is rather busy so there is a chance that he just had not the time to place it on his site. 04-20-103 12:32:07 Orac, are you willing to help Doug out with his request/project? 04-20-103 12:34:53 Doug: Orac tells me he's willing to help you out with what you originally asked. :-) 04-20-103 12:36:12 Could I ask another favor? 04-20-103 12:37:04 Could we please list the address for the agenda at the top of the meeting log, when we start the meeting 04-20-103 12:37:36 I have been thinking about how to list the meetings on the site, and it would be nice for someone reading a log to be able to click on the agenda for the meeting 04-20-103 12:37:46 OK, I'll start doing that. Today there isn't much of an agenda, but here goes. 04-20-103 12:38:02 by clicking on the agenda listing at top of the log file -you know what I mean 04-20-103 12:38:15 Just needs to be given at the start of the meeting 04-20-103 12:39:03 It looks like you guys to a mild editing of the log file so that it only includes that stuff from the actual meeting. Maybe when the file is edited? 04-20-103 12:39:07 *** The topic for #WarpDoctor is: Warpdoctor Meeting: Agenda: http://www.warpdoctor.org/agendas/warpdoc_2003-04-20.html 04-20-103 12:39:59 I was really hoping to have something for you all to try out this weekend, but it is not quite ready yet 04-20-103 12:40:08 I think I am getting very close. 04-20-103 12:40:16 Sector: Some people come late enough to miss it when I give it at the beginning. 04-20-103 12:40:51 Did you just put the agenda up as part of the title of the meeting? 04-20-103 12:41:00 Yes. 04-20-103 12:41:01 in the title bar of the IRC 04-20-103 12:41:11 Ooo - that's a great idea 04-20-103 12:41:36 Except you can't do an copy and pasted. :-( 04-20-103 12:41:43 paste 04-20-103 12:41:56 Giving it at the beginning of the meeting will include it at the top of the log file 04-20-103 12:42:34 Actually, WalterOS2 set the topic for this channel. Depends on your IRC client some put it in the title bar, some don't. 04-20-103 12:46:07 Ken: You here? 04-20-103 12:46:13 Yep. 04-20-103 12:46:46 How would you like to bring us up to date on your Internet upgrade status? 04-20-103 12:47:11 The T1 is in and running since last Friday (a week). 04-20-103 12:47:56 The mirror is running on that line now as well. 04-20-103 12:48:25 Could you refresh our minds as to which facility that's in? 04-20-103 12:48:32 The IP's have been changed for warpdoctor.easydns.us and os2voice.easydns.us. 04-20-103 12:48:47 The T1 is in Somerville office. 04-20-103 12:49:08 Which state--for us Canucks? 04-20-103 12:49:16 New Jersey. 04-20-103 12:49:28 Thx. 04-20-103 12:49:48 Is that the mfg facility or the office one? 04-20-103 12:49:58 I've assigned one of our ip addresses specifically for voice. 04-20-103 12:50:17 This one does both mfg and office. 04-20-103 12:50:25 Thanks a lot. We really appreciate it. 04-20-103 12:50:44 What goes on at the other facility? 04-20-103 12:51:04 Just mfg., most of our larger orders are done there. 04-20-103 12:53:41 Just out of curiosity, what kind of Internet access do you have at the Penn. plant? 04-20-103 12:54:00 We have a dialup isdn line. 04-20-103 12:54:23 But they don't have internet, just used for tie line. 04-20-103 12:55:47 What we *MIGHT* do is to install our server at Ken's Somerville office, keep a primary mirror there, and have a secondary mirror at Mensys. 04-20-103 12:56:09 That depends on our getting approval from the bosses at Mensys. 04-20-103 12:56:34 I think, however, it is fairly promising. 04-20-103 12:57:08 And of course getting approval from Ken. 04-20-103 12:57:40 It's fine with me. I can even put the mirror in a separate building... 04-20-103 12:58:01 Tho' just next door. We have a net line between them. 04-20-103 12:58:22 Does it have a separate power supply? 04-20-103 12:58:44 Yes, it does. But it does share the T1. 04-20-103 12:58:53 The more separation the better. 04-20-103 12:59:23 I'm concerned more about electrical power failures. 04-20-103 12:59:54 Does the T1 in either building stay up if the power in one building goes down? 04-20-103 13:00:00 Well, whenever we've lost power it's always been the whole block :( 04-20-103 13:00:18 The T1 is on it's own battery backup. 04-20-103 13:00:55 That's why I would like to have a backup/mirror in Mensys or somewhere completely different. 04-20-103 13:01:35 It's always better to be separate. A far as possible. 04-20-103 13:01:43 Agreed. 04-20-103 13:01:57 Like we've got with WEBBnet, one main server is on the West Coast, the other on the East coast... 04-20-103 13:02:04 Netherlands far away enough? :-) 04-20-103 13:03:42 I would like to find another mirror somewhere in N.A., but so far nothing's opened up. 04-20-103 13:04:20 N.A.=North America 04-20-103 13:41:31 Anyone have anything else they would like to discuss? 04-20-103 13:41:50 aka Other Business 04-20-103 13:42:07 As I said earlier, I've put up the "input" page changes. For comment. 04-20-103 13:42:32 Thanks for getting us back on track. 04-20-103 13:42:39 Any comments? 04-20-103 13:43:18 The URL, again, is http://pws.prserv.net/wdl/hcl/input.html 04-20-103 13:43:55 I think it's great, and covers everything we've discussed. :-) 04-20-103 13:44:04 Thanks for all your work. 04-20-103 13:44:24 Gord had sme comments on it/them. 04-20-103 13:44:25 I like the first disclaimer ;-) 04-20-103 13:44:59 I like the N.B. 04-20-103 13:51:38 Gord? Your comments to the group, please? 04-20-103 13:52:21 KenKrchner: I'll check my other sources. I *think* it's in all of them. 04-20-103 13:52:22 I would like to see a narrower space between "Is this device" and "Which OS" 04-20-103 13:53:00 And a larger space after the line "Which OS" 04-20-103 13:53:35 Also the order of the questions on the long and shrt forms should be the same. 4-20-103 13:56:47 I move we adjourn? 04-20-103 13:56:59 Sounds good to me. 04-20-103 13:58:30 All in favour of adjourning the meeting, type Aye. 04-20-103 13:58:44 aye 04-20-103 13:58:46 Aye 04-20-103 13:58:51 Aye 04-20-103 13:58:51 aye 04-20-103 13:59:11 All opposed, type Nay 04-20-103 13:59:30 Motion is carried, meeting is adjourned.