12-01-102 12:21:38 This WarpDoctor meeting is now called to order. 12-01-102 12:21:48 Yes 12-01-102 12:22:45 Sector, you taking the log? 12-01-102 12:22:55 ^ 12-01-102 12:24:24 Agenda Item 2: Doug, can you give us a status report on the DB2 engine and the WD plugin? 12-01-102 12:24:43 Ummm, what happened to Item 1¿ 12-01-102 12:24:48 yes 12-01-102 12:25:38 I am still finishing plug-in documentation. I have probably 5 more sections to finish writing on the programming guide 12-01-102 12:26:01 The Reference guide is done iwth the writing, but needs to be proof-read and spell checked 12-01-102 12:26:23 This last week has not been ver productive because of Thanksgiving 12-01-102 12:31:25 Doug, has the DL file changed since a couple of weeks ago? 12-01-102 12:32:04 Yes - I have updated it a couple of times, and I will send the final update for the plug-in install file this week. 12-01-102 12:32:39 OK, I had run into a couple of things, so I'll check it out b4 reporting FB. 12-01-102 12:32:53 I had a problem with the plugin, and reported it to Doug. 12-01-102 12:32:55 I have discovered a couple of bugs in writing the documentation which resulted in the updates. 12-01-102 12:33:27 I had bad email address, and he just got it now--I hope. 12-01-102 12:33:34 Then I'll add mine, to be sure it's known.... 12-01-102 12:33:49 He may have fixed that bug in one of the updates. 12-01-102 12:33:58 Walter - were you using Mozilla when you get your message? 12-01-102 12:34:19 1. I could not get the dll to be recognized. It's obviously there, but the system keeps saying it's not. 12-01-102 12:34:39 Which browser Ken? 12-01-102 12:34:48 No--I was using IBM Web Browser 2.0. Sorry, I thought I said that. 12-01-102 12:35:20 2. When I went to DL a exe (self extr. zip) the plugin came up and would not let me continue. Had to remove the plugin dll. 12-01-102 12:35:37 This was on Mozilla 1.2b 12-01-102 12:36:12 Ken and Walter have the same problem, and it happens with Mozilla based browsers - which includes IBM web browser 12-01-102 12:36:14 Oh, the first problem with the dll was even local (no browser). 12-01-102 12:36:50 The Mozilla based browser uses the extension of the file name to find a plug-in, regardless of the MIME-Type being used for the file 12-01-102 12:37:25 If you go to HELP - About Plug-ins and look at the list of plug-ins installed for your browser 12-01-102 12:37:44 you will see the MIME-Types and file extensions "registered" to each plug-in 12-01-102 12:37:50 I renamed the file to .DL_ to get around the problem. Needless to say that makes it useless for WarpDoctor purposes. 12-01-102 12:38:22 In the list you will notice that *.exe is assigned or registered to x-warpdoctor/gpfrexx and to x-warpdoctor/generic 12-01-102 12:38:51 When the browser is downloading the file it is associating it with the Rexx plug-in and trying to execute the file as a Rexx program 12-01-102 12:39:01 Which the plug-in will not allow. 12-01-102 12:39:58 I'll take .exe off the list so that it is not registered to the Rexx plug-in, and run GPF Rexx another way. 12-01-102 12:40:00 Thanks for the bug report. 1-102 12:43:12 Doug: are you saying the plug-in downloads either EXE or DLL files? 12-01-102 12:43:47 The plug-in is implemented as a DLL that is loaded by the browser the dll is npwprdoc.dll 12-01-102 12:44:10 The plug-in RUNS programs in files with various extensions, one of which is *.exe 12-01-102 12:44:31 The others are *.cmd, *.rex, *.res, *.vrm *.wrp 12-01-102 12:44:49 What caused the plug-in to get called when I tried to download the SciTech driver? 12-01-102 12:45:23 The problem is that Mozilla is using the file extension to determine the MIME-Type of the file and it is using the plug-in list to make that determination 12-01-102 12:45:54 Since we list *.exe as one of the files that the Rexx plug-in handles, Mozilla is calling the Rexx plug-in every time it downloads an *.exe file 12-01-102 12:46:03 which obviously we don't want. 12-01-102 12:46:16 Does that make sense? 12-01-102 12:46:24 I'll say we don't. 12-01-102 12:46:45 Yes it makes sense. 12-01-102 12:47:48 There are two ways that the plug-in gets called: 1) when the browser encounters an EMBED tag in an HTML tag that points to the plug-in 12-01-102 12:48:11 and 2) when the browser encounters a data stream with a MIME-Type that is assigned to the plug-in 12-01-102 12:48:51 #2 method runs tin the plug-in in a mode called full-screen, which the Rexx plug-in doesn't allow because we cann't check some things we need for security purposes 12-01-102 12:49:12 Which is why you got them message that the plug-in will only run in EMBED mode, which is #1 12-01-102 12:49:56 The problem is that the browser is seeing a file with an *.exe extension and the browser is jumping to the conclusion that it belongs to the plug-in because we list that as a file extension we are interested in 12-01-102 12:50:49 I'll change that and upload a new version this week. 12-01-102 12:58:41 Any other comments on the Plug-in? 12-01-102 13:00:45 Right. Doug, I imagine with your work on the Plug-in and it being Thanksgiving in Yankee-land, the DB2 "engine" is pretty much where it was last week, right? 12-01-102 13:01:29 yes 12-01-102 13:02:06 I understand the meaning, anyway. 12-01-102 13:04:15 (Clearly I'm not following the order of the agenda. Sorry about that.) 12-01-102 13:04:37 By chance do you have anything for us about OpenSSH? 12-01-102 13:05:04 I'm here and willing to help those who need help with it 12-01-102 13:06:25 OK, can you give us a few beginnings steps to get us started in using it. I've NEVER messed around with SSH--open or closed. 12-01-102 13:11:04 I don't want to get too involved today.. because I do have plans to change the way it's currently configured 12-01-102 13:11:23 I'm afraid what I tell you all, will change 12-01-102 13:11:51 The current configuration is fine, more secure and not that hard... 12-01-102 13:12:26 yeah... but Mark seems to be having trouble.. and I know he has a account 12-01-102 14:08:56 Well, just for the record I'm going to ask for a motion for adjournment. We can still hang out and chat, but it is past time and we are way off topic. :-) 12-01-102 14:09:30 move to adjourn 12-01-102 14:09:41 Ummm, still part of the agenda to go 12-01-102 14:09:45 All in favour.... 12-01-102 14:10:04 aye 12-01-102 14:10:04 We'll table that until next week. 12-01-102 14:10:06 Yea 12-01-102 14:10:11 Aye. 12-01-102 14:11:00 Carried. 12-01-102 14:11:06 Meeting adjourned.