12-09-101 11:04:48 I'm taking the log.--Sector? 12-09-101 11:04:56 Yes 12-09-101 11:05:10 Good---a backup is always nice. 12-09-101 11:07:46 Item 3: - Ye Olde Status Reports. 12-09-101 11:10:15 OK, let's move to the web site status report and Rat-Salad. 12-09-101 11:11:25 one a tip was added (thanks to Wilson).. but at this time no link.. I would like to get a few up before linking to them 12-09-101 11:12:12 Is there a link we can look at or no? 12-09-101 11:12:23 we=just we? 12-09-101 11:12:26 ??Looking 12-09-101 11:13:01 hey WRook... now that you are here you can give the link for the tip you did for us the other night 12-09-101 11:13:27 http://www.warpdoctor.org/lib/info/PeerLan.html 12-09-101 11:15:32 I think WRook can tell you that my template is fairly easy to work with if anyone else is interested in helping with the tips too 12-09-101 11:16:10 Are you planning on keeping the lines centred? 12-09-101 11:16:12 Thanks for talking for me. (I would have said the same). 12-09-101 11:16:39 hehe 12-09-101 11:16:57 .... They were left justified??? I can fix that. 12-09-101 11:17:16 OK, I just wondered. :-) 12-09-101 11:17:25 I think Walter means they should be to the left, not centered 12-09-101 11:17:38 Right. 12-09-101 11:17:51 I also want to get a graphic added... ... Yes. Far left is always better.. 12-09-101 11:18:52 reguardless of those little details, WRook did a good job 12-09-101 11:18:55 Jer, I think I mentioned in an email that I would like to see Tip and Trick's section separate from the Reference's section. What do you think. 12-09-101 11:19:10 we can do that 12-09-101 11:20:06 I can see the T&T getting so big that it will be awkward if we make in a subsection. 12-09-101 11:20:56 I'm not that happy with the way ref_lib.html looks anyway 12-09-101 11:21:34 Well, as you get time change it the way you'd like to. 12-09-101 11:21:36 I think RS or Hoss and I talked about that. We do need to design it for more tips. One of the two said that you, Walter, have 100's of them. 12-09-101 11:22:12 hehe I think Walter said he has mountains of tips 12-09-101 11:22:50 Yeah, if I can find them. I lost the index when Focus on OS/2 went bye-bye. 12-09-101 11:23:16 I still know where a lot of them are, though. :-) 12-09-101 11:24:18 We need to plan on more of that happining. The NY OS/2 Users group ended (converted to Linux) in October. - Should we see if that have any content they wish to contribute. 12-09-101 11:24:48 I think I want to add a banner section to the site as well... 12-09-101 11:24:56 I'll make up a document or directory, and as I think of them or remember them, I'll drop them in the file/directory and after I've accumulated a bunch, I' send them to R-S. 12-09-101 11:25:32 if people don't want to actually get their hands dirty.. perhaps they can provide a banner link to us on their webpages you know? 12-09-101 11:25:50 we = group, not RS and I --- RS and I would have plenty to do converting and posting. 12-09-101 11:27:38 OK, let's move on to Device Compatibility page and Lalcan. 12-09-101 11:27:42 what do you all think of the banner idea? 12-09-101 11:28:33 I think it's a great idea, if you can persuade webmasters to build the banner. 12-09-101 11:28:56 well.. I would create the banners... 12-09-101 11:29:11 all they would have to do is use them on their websites 12-09-101 11:29:19 Perhaps we should do what Warpstock has done. Create one ourselves and encourage webmasters to copy it to their sites. 12-09-101 11:29:26 Maybe we could use sections a-la Stupid Tips and Tricks file... Base OS, WPS, WIN-OS2, etc... i like the banner idea.. 12-09-101 11:30:22 OK, R-S, that's great! 12-09-101 11:31:08 Now we really should move on. We have a lot to cover. 12-09-101 11:31:22 Lalcan, have you anything new to report? 12-09-101 11:31:23 yes... lalcan.. :) 12-09-101 11:31:42 [We should create and control the banner] 12-09-101 11:31:52 mmm, well, not much :( 12-09-101 11:32:09 a few printer updates, but nothing more... 12-09-101 11:32:33 Well, that's something. We 12-09-101 11:32:36 that is perfectly understandable... we all realize that you've been on the road the past couple weeks 12-09-101 11:32:56 We'll expect great things next week :-) 12-09-101 11:33:20 hello - I've been reading the logs from the server to try and get up to speed 12-09-101 11:33:41 sorry about not all the logs being there.. :) 12-09-101 11:34:11 true, i'll spend most of december here at home, and intend to make the final push for the hcl :) 12-09-101 11:34:17 We really appreciate your willingness to help. 12-09-101 11:35:07 Doug, that doesn't make for the most exciting reading. :-) 12-09-101 11:35:26 Parts of looked pretty exciting (hot) 12-09-101 11:35:37 well, it's always a pleasure to work under OS/2 after suffering with the Wincrap, isn't it? :) 12-09-101 11:38:06 There is one Agenda Item, I would like to finish off, if I may. 12-09-101 11:38:30 WRook, you 12-09-101 11:39:02 wait a minute.. don't finish him off... we need him! 12-09-101 11:39:21 WRook we haven't assigned you to a team yet; I'll probably get to that. Did you spend most of last week with R-S? 12-09-101 11:40:27 WRook, I'm not going to do it today, so don't worry. :-) 12-09-101 11:41:07 I just had to run all the way into downtown. -look at the link again. If I get assigned to a team, do I get FTP access? 12-09-101 11:41:57 Walter: Lead me and I will follow. The sooner you assign the sooner I can help. 12-09-101 11:42:13 If necessary. Basically ftp access is granted to people who need it. :-) 12-09-101 11:42:23 hmm the template changes I had you make aren't there.. but don't worry.. ill fix that before it goes public 12-09-101 11:43:02 looks good :) 12-09-101 11:43:04 OK, did you do anything more on the power-down issue during the week? 12-09-101 11:43:42 (I still got that ... to upload) 12-09-101 11:44:12 OK, I just need need to know where we are. 12-09-101 11:44:50 Thanks! 12-09-101 11:45:23 I tried to powerdown.. Nothing more on the UPSMon Software. I was told Saturday/Sunday would be a good time - But last week the Newsletter just went up. 12-09-101 11:46:42 I should be able to get some reports to the author regarding the Software Compatibility and test the WOL cable -- or at least get one installed. I'll send mail to Mark and Able. 12-09-101 11:46:45 OK, since Mark handles both the Newsletter and Voice News, it's best if you co-ordinate with him. 12-09-101 11:47:25 Yes. I Will. 12-09-101 11:48:00 Try to get a message out on VOICE News 12-24 hours explaining that the Server will be down for xxxx for Scheduled Maintenance. 12-09-101 11:48:15 OK. 12-09-101 11:48:49 You'll need to state the time, and if you can give a maximum down time. 12-09-101 11:49:21 can s/b must 12-09-101 11:49:52 We can only keep the Server1 down for so long. But you know all about that. :-) 12-09-101 11:50:30 I really only think we would be looking at 5 Min the first time to get the cable installed. The a few reboots at that time or some other time to test WOL. Because the hardware is different, I do not have any other box to learn on. 12-09-101 11:50:51 If there is another user with the same Mobo, It would help if they could test. 12-09-101 11:51:21 WRook: You have any spare MBs there? 12-09-101 11:51:49 Yes, but my Mobo's just power back up. 12-09-101 11:52:10 What is WOL? 12-09-101 11:52:18 Wake On Lan 12-09-101 11:53:27 Anything else? 12-09-101 11:53:35 It is a small learning curve to find out how this Mobo works. -- Yes Sector WOL is Wake On Lan. We need it to tell the computer to power back up after a shutdown. Did we decide what type of NIC this has? 12-09-101 11:54:11 Is there some document somewhere that desribes the system - hardware and software that makes up WarpDoctor? 12-09-101 11:54:27 The small curve becomes a mountain on a live server -- so any other testing would help. I go over this with Hoss and Mark. 12-09-101 11:54:59 3com have that feature don't they 12-09-101 11:55:00 actually Doug, WRook was working on that 12-09-101 11:55:48 Thanks - is there also something that descibes the design of warpdoctor - either what it is now or what is is going to be? 12-09-101 11:55:51 I think about any of the current NICs have WOL 12-09-101 11:55:52 Wrook, I believe we decided that simple signaling using the serial port was adequate for our purposes. 12-09-101 11:56:16 I create a list, Do we want to make that a public link. The upside is it will show a list of hardware that is up on a live server. The down side is security. I think we are here to educate and we should accept the risk. 12-09-101 11:56:24 For now, at least. 12-09-101 11:56:25 i believe the DFE530tx+ had it also 12-09-101 11:57:15 the DFE530tx+ uses the RealTek8139 chipset 12-09-101 11:57:17 Yes, Simple is the only one that can be used. Advances Signaling is only needed to control the switch and Matrix backup. Sorry, I will not allow Voice to access other systems. 12-09-101 11:57:58 my cheapy Encore (realtek8139) has it too 12-09-101 11:58:02 (Access to the one port for controling just Voice1's power can be accessed from a web site for just that one power outlet - I have given that to Hoss.) 12-09-101 11:59:25 Pardon my curiousity, WRook, and my ignorance, what is your relationship to Walkabout Internet? 12-09-101 12:00:11 Internet Walkabout -- I am Mr. Walkabout. -- Creator Presidnet and chief bottle washer. 12-09-101 12:00:12 Or is that none of my business? 12-09-101 12:00:31 Thank you Mr Walkabout! 12-09-101 12:00:51 3com 3C905C-TX-M Remote Wake up for remote power-up via PCI 2.2 bus are RWU cable. 12-09-101 12:00:53 (I can't spell the office - but I still sit in the hot seat) hehe 12-09-101 12:02:34 If there's nothing else, we need to move on to the issue DB2. 12-09-101 12:03:25 yeah 12-09-101 12:03:42 As most of you know, we haven't heard from Longstaff for ages. I've tried to contact twice and failed. 12-09-101 12:04:00 Has anyone else been able to contact him? 12-09-101 12:04:42 Not I 12-09-101 12:05:15 Being a new person with nothing to risk. I move that we deligate DB2 to another person until some future date thet we again hear from Longstaff. 12-09-101 12:05:26 haven't tried a second time.. but I notice he's on @home.. perhaps that has something to do with why we have been unable to make contact with him 12-09-101 12:05:34 Longstaff was a very capable DB2 person who joined the WD group for the 2nd time in May, and disappeared a few months later. 12-09-101 12:06:50 R-S: it has been a couple months hasn't it? 12-09-101 12:07:19 I think WRook's idea has merit. 12-09-101 12:07:22 seems like it.. my attempt to contact him was about 3 weeks ago 12-09-101 12:07:51 madel, the last time I communicated with him at all was shortly be Warpstock. 12-09-101 12:08:01 be=before 12-09-101 12:08:31 Probably in Late July or early August. 12-09-101 12:08:58 the @home fiasco has only been recent. My guess is he is just too busy to continue 12-09-101 12:09:17 he needs to tell us 12-09-101 12:09:18 That is my guess as well, Mark. 12-09-101 12:09:31 R-S, that would nice. :-) 12-09-101 12:10:17 He has disappeared for months at a time in the past 12-09-101 12:10:57 I haven't wanted to replace him and get him miffed, in case he did come back. But how long do wait and do nothing? 12-09-101 12:11:00 one could probably find him on Undernet 12-09-101 12:11:01 I think the project needs someone able to at least show up on a regular basis 12-09-101 12:11:20 No, I don't think he does. WD is more that one person. If I get to busy to help and to busy to tell you I am to busy, I hope you continue development and don't stagnate. (see I'm New I can risk bold statements) 12-09-101 12:12:23 I agree with Mark, but there's another consideration. 12-09-101 12:13:16 Longstaff donated his version of DB2 for Workgroups for OS/2 v5.0 to WD. Are we still entitled to use that package? 12-09-101 12:13:47 I guess thats another good question 12-09-101 12:14:15 I feel mildly uncomfortable doing so. 12-09-101 12:14:23 he donated it. He can't undonate it. at least not in any good faith. 12-09-101 12:14:29 the word "Longstaff donated" should answer the question 12-09-101 12:14:37 Well, he hasn't said we couldn't 12-09-101 12:14:50 Do we have all the fixpaks on Server1? 12-09-101 12:15:02 That sounds to me like he has provided it on the server. It can be used their unless we are told the donation is recendied. 12-09-101 12:15:33 ?? No idea here. 12-09-101 12:16:30 If it comes down to it I will donate a DB/2 license if he tells us he wants it back. Lets not get bogged down with DB/2 licensing again. 12-09-101 12:16:34 I think Charles would want us to continue using it... I recall him saying that he purchases that copy of DB2 with WarpDoctor in mind in the first place 12-09-101 12:17:09 We wasted a lot of time discussing it before and trying to get IBM to donate a license 12-09-101 12:17:12 I do not want to sound ungratful in any way. I just see what is happening now. (I am not hampered by history) we should appreciate the good faith and effort and move ever onward. 12-09-101 12:18:39 We should put up a page on Warp Doctor thanking those that have contributed, with Charles being at the top of the list 12-09-101 12:18:55 And thanking him for the DB/2 license 12-09-101 12:19:02 Good idea 12-09-101 12:19:04 yeah, a contributor link can be added 12-09-101 12:19:10 (Also in a pinch, I have a unused copy of IBM Database server for OS/2 Warp. Version 4) 12-09-101 12:19:40 Contributor list would be good, not sure about putting any one person at the top though... Don't want to favor one over another. Alphabetical might be better 12-09-101 12:20:35 OK, while you were talking, I did a quick scan of Server1, and couldn't locate DB2 or any fixpaks. 12-09-101 12:21:09 We need to see if we have the software, before we can go forward. 12-09-101 12:21:24 Its there. It gives an error on every boot 12-09-101 12:21:50 Actually - if you are concerned about legal issues you probably need the CD - or a copy of the license 12-09-101 12:22:15 DB2 was loaded and Abel did not say anyting about it comming down. 12-09-101 12:22:56 Doug: That would be best. 12-09-101 12:22:59 Right. Did Abel install the fixpaks? Without the fixpaks, it's only 5.0 and inadequate for our needs. 12-09-101 12:22:59 Doug has a good point there. It should be in one place. Even if it is walter and he sends the Admins a 12-09-101 12:23:29 .. a CDR copy. I should know one person to go to for Lic. Verification. 12-09-101 12:24:13 You should be able to get the fix packs from IBM's site - and if you can't I think can send them to you. 12-09-101 12:24:54 (FYI Doug, Server1 is at my ISP. I have physical access) (No Authority) 12-09-101 12:25:04 Of course, I should have remembered that. 12-09-101 12:25:28 Thanks WR - is that the machine that warpdoctor (web server and database) runs on? 12-09-101 12:25:28 WRook, how much do you know about DB2? 12-09-101 12:25:41 Doug, yes. 12-09-101 12:26:29 WRook: Everything, A lot, Something, Nothing. :-) 12-09-101 12:27:13 0 - Zero. I have been using SQL from another vendor for 18 months. It is used in our billing system. I have also created some Web Apps using that SQL product. 12-09-101 12:27:17 I think we've been here before 12-09-101 12:27:38 I'll help with DB2, or another database, if you want 12-09-101 12:28:04 Zero on DB2, I should be able to transfer Knowledge in quick fasion with a leader to help. 12-09-101 12:28:56 If there is an issue with the license, i will purchase one and send it to Wilson so he has it on site. 12-09-101 12:29:04 WRook: if you know SQL then transfering to DB2 will probably be no big deal. 12-09-101 12:29:06 That is true, If we do think DB2 Lic is an issue, then we should get a group togeather to do something. 12-09-101 12:29:37 Do we have anyone in the "room" who feels they could handle the job of Team Leader if they have sufficient support? 12-09-101 12:29:49 No, please no more licensing discussions. We have been round that circle multiple times before 12-09-101 12:30:04 Team Leader=DB2 Team Leader 12-09-101 12:30:11 -- Per MADeCSSMP --- Sounds like their is not a Lic issue. If we learn that what we have can no longer be used. We will fix it at thet time. I am OK with that. 12-09-101 12:30:23 I will volunteer 12-09-101 12:31:00 If Doug makes his volunteer with a Big V I will put in a small v. 12-09-101 12:31:08 Thanks a lot Doug! I'm sure that's a great load of all our minds. 12-09-101 12:31:32 Please sign on the dotted line ................................ ;-0 12-09-101 12:31:39 Thank you as well WRook. 12-09-101 12:31:48 V 12-09-101 12:33:38 Doug: if you need some help or resources pls let me know, and I'll try to round it up for you. 12-09-101 12:33:57 What I really need to know is - what do you all want? 12-09-101 12:34:29 I think that should go to a subcommitee 12-09-101 12:34:57 I agree. Who do you want on the sc? 12-09-101 12:35:05 We can submit a scope next sunday. 12-09-101 12:35:44 next sunday? thought we had a conflict 12-09-101 12:35:57 OK; that works out well, because we have an important subject to discuss. 12-09-101 12:36:10 RS-Conflict? 12-09-101 12:36:27 Forgive me if I am being pushy - how about a document that we circulate before next Sunday - so we can discuss on Sunday 12-09-101 12:36:28 RS is on the Web Master stuff so he is needes (Then maybe 2-3 weeks) 12-09-101 12:36:56 needes=needed 12-09-101 12:37:13 there isyeah.. please don't kick me out 12-09-101 12:37:41 So RS is the web master? 12-09-101 12:37:51 Yeah, we loan people around a lot. :) 12-09-101 12:37:53 I can send you some of my ideas of line. 12-09-101 12:37:57 yes I am 12-09-101 12:37:57 Do we have a document outlining the Warp Doctor database requirements? 12-09-101 12:38:23 RS: web looks nice BTW 12-09-101 12:38:30 maybe we should have discussions on the warpdoctor mailing list through out the week 12-09-101 12:38:43 No, but we should be able to make up from the earlier logs. 12-09-101 12:39:01 Good idea. 12-09-101 12:39:03 If there is, I would like a copy. I have discussed this in the meeting and online. Mail list sounds good also. 12-09-101 12:39:43 Might as well use it for something besides meeting reminders 12-09-101 12:39:54 Doug, thanks... glad to hear compliments.. I do design sites for small and medium size businesses 12-09-101 12:39:54 OK, we really need to move on. 12-09-101 12:40:16 Bangs gavel. 12-09-101 12:40:27 Although I am least qualified, I would probably benefit most by writing it. How about if I write a prelim document an email to everyone. 12-09-101 12:40:47 Based on logs 12-09-101 12:41:03 I want to *consider* changing the day/time of meeting. 12-09-101 12:41:05 can do that on the mailing list 12-09-101 12:41:34 ok Walter.. when I seen the agenda lastnight I got some thoughts on that 12-09-101 12:42:06 During the past two weeks, I have had to people express conflicts with their church schedule. 12-09-101 12:42:44 personally I'm always here.. any time is good for me within reason 12-09-101 12:42:45 These would be people in the CST and west. It doesn't affect me because I live in the right time zone. 12-09-101 12:43:27 That would make every other time zone the wrong one... 12-09-101 12:44:04 Moreover there is Warpstock meeting starting at 11:30 ET, and runs for around 2 hours. 12-09-101 12:44:33 Any time would be OK with me. No problem with 4PM Sonday. (If Sector can't make it he can send his bot) 12-09-101 12:44:43 We originally moved it to this time because a bunch of Europeans said they might/would come if we did. 12-09-101 12:45:02 or we could just move it to Saturday and keep the 2PM time 12-09-101 12:45:04 Eurpopeans people(mainly Europeans) 12-09-101 12:45:43 Mid Sunday afternoon just doesn't seem to work. 12-09-101 12:45:45 Oops. Try a u 12-09-101 12:45:55 * Sector wouldn't be able to make 2PM Saturday at the moment 12-09-101 12:46:30 I'm one of the two people and I could just continue to join late 12-09-101 12:46:42 When was the last time any of you saw a European here? 12-09-101 12:46:50 haven't 12-09-101 12:46:53 Later on Sunday would be fine with me 12-09-101 12:46:57 I kinda like Sunday -- It is after church for me. Saturyday could have a lot of other plans. 12-09-101 12:47:01 no Europeans 12-09-101 12:47:13 Exactly. 12-09-101 12:47:52 perhaps late sunday, like 7 or 8 pm? 12-09-101 12:48:05 what is so screwy about that is.. from what I understand theres more OS/2 users in Europe than there are over here in the US and Canada 12-09-101 12:48:08 We've got the multiple time zone problems. We can just hope to please as many as possible, I understand. 12-09-101 12:48:37 Maybe it's the language barrier. 12-09-101 12:48:53 Or the Atlantic barrier. 12-09-101 12:49:41 I'm very flexible 12-09-101 12:50:11 How can I get the warpdoctor mailing list? 12-09-101 12:50:32 Doug: it was on the email I sent you. 12-09-101 12:51:17 Doug: All VOICE mailling lists are listed at http://www.os2voice.org/mailinglists.html including Warp Doctor 12-09-101 12:51:54 Thanks 12-09-101 12:51:57 What I'm proposing is changing the Day or Time for a trial period of say, a month, and watch the attendance for that period. 12-09-101 12:52:15 Then we can decide whether to change permanently. 12-09-101 12:52:47 Sounds very good. What time/day? 12-09-101 12:52:53 I think it would be helpful if an announcement went out on the Os/2 news sites to let people know. Maybe get some more new people. 12-09-101 12:53:21 I would like to decide that now, and then publish it in the mailing list. 12-09-101 12:53:24 we should probably try a new time each month untill we find whats best.. when we find a time that attendance is really good we should stick with it 12-09-101 12:53:47 How many want to keep it on Sunday? 12-09-101 12:54:04 I prefer Sunday if possible 12-09-101 12:54:09 Sunday is fine 12-09-101 12:54:23 like I said.. I'm flexable 12-09-101 12:54:25 We will all get lost in the fog. Lets try one new time for now. I vote 4PM EST Sunday. 12-09-101 12:55:11 Are you making a motion? 12-09-101 12:55:29 I second that.. should but later enough 12-09-101 12:55:32 I guess I don't understand mailing lists - If I mail something to majormajor@os2voice.org does it go to all the warpdoctor team? 12-09-101 12:55:42 OK, Unless there is another time put up for discussion 12-09-101 12:55:43 but=be 12-09-101 12:56:03 Yes, That is a Mailing list. 12-09-101 12:56:04 4PM EST Sunday is fine with me 12-09-101 12:56:07 warpdoctor@os2voice.org is where you want to send your messages to 12-09-101 12:56:20 Ok with me 12-09-101 12:56:30 OK with me. 12-09-101 12:56:54 OK with me 12-09-101 12:57:03 well, i'll try that 4PM time and see if it works for me :) 12-09-101 12:57:25 lalcan: Where are you? 12-09-101 12:57:29 warpdoctor@os2voice.org is where you want to send your messages to 12-09-101 12:57:34 OK with me (I hope Lalcan.. We want you here.) 12-09-101 12:58:39 majormajor is the list manager. You need to subscribe there first 12-09-101 12:59:02 Then all mail is sent to warpdoctor@os2voice.org 12-09-101 12:59:17 Mark, explain to him how to subscript from the top 12-09-101 12:59:23 subscribe 12-09-101 12:59:26 i'm in Mexico... CST but we usually eat at 4pm est :( 12-09-101 13:00:07 Doug: send an email to majormajor@os2voice.org 12-09-101 13:00:11 which is about this time :) i'm getting hungry already jeje 12-09-101 13:00:17 Subject can be anything 12-09-101 13:00:52 Body must contain: SUBSCRIBE WARPDOCTOR my@email.net 12-09-101 13:00:55 END 12-09-101 13:03:13 Final notes: 12-09-101 13:03:36 true! we have a rather strange eating pattern :) 12-09-101 13:03:42 How about 2:30 EST to 4:00 EST 12-09-101 13:03:50 Starting in January, we'll meet at Sunday 4:00p. 12-09-101 13:04:05 I was thinking about Dinner EST at 6PM 2 Hours would work well for that for others. I can work around that - if others can. 12-09-101 13:04:15 We'll meet next week at the regular time. 12-09-101 13:04:26 Sounds Good. In January. 12-09-101 13:04:56 The two weeks after that, we'll take a break for the Christmas-New Year holidays. 12-09-101 13:05:10 Everyone OK with that? 12-09-101 13:05:17 OK 12-09-101 13:05:22 That's OK! 12-09-101 13:05:33 Doug, thanks so much for coming. 12-09-101 13:06:03 OK with me. 12-09-101 13:06:24 so everyone got time set for 4pm est then 12-09-101 13:06:50 Starting Jan 2nd or 9th? 12-09-101 13:06:55 any willing to help with the project are valued 12-09-101 13:07:05 (Is there a meeting on the 2nd?) 12-09-101 13:07:27 Is Jan 2nd a sunday? 12-09-101 13:07:28 * Sector has no need of a holiday break, but ok 12-09-101 13:07:45 Yes they are. 12-09-101 13:07:50 Sorry, Jan 6th. 12-09-101 13:07:56 January 2nd 2002 is a Wednesday... 12-09-101 13:08:00 i though it would be January 6... 12-09-101 13:08:36 Starting Jan 6th. 12-09-101 13:08:51 (Sorry - I was using a Windoz Calander) 12-09-101 13:09:07 Great meeting everyone. Thanks for coming. 12-09-101 13:09:28 I'm ready to entertain a motion to adjourn. 12-09-101 13:09:39 Motion to adjourn 12-09-101 13:09:43 thanks and have a great week! i'll second that adjourn motion :) 12-09-101 13:09:48 (I have to get my glasses fix.) 12-09-101 13:09:54 Carried. 12-09-101 13:10:02 Meeting adjourned.