07-11-101 20:09:46 *** Log Activated #warpdoctor (H:\INTERNET\GTIRC30\WD\#warpdoc.log) 07-11-101 20:10:01 hiya11 Walter 07-11-101 20:10:30 *** mandie_ (~judymc@192.168.1.1) has joined #warpdoctor [20:10:30] 07-11-101 20:10:33 g'evening 07-11-101 20:10:42 I'm really sorry for the delay. Among my other problems, WordPro was giving me fits. :-( 07-11-101 20:10:47 Rat-Salad: undernet so far hasn't been noticably impacted.......possibly because they did a decent job last winter with their reengineering 07-11-101 20:10:57 hiya11 mandie_ 07-11-101 20:10:59 Goodevening, everyone. 07-11-101 20:11:02 hi Longstaff 07-11-101 20:11:30 Hi Longstaff, mandie, madodel. 07-11-101 20:11:36 hi Walter 07-11-101 20:12:00 Mandie, bet you thought I forgotten about, or worse, again, eh? 07-11-101 20:12:18 hehe...the thought might have crossed my mind :) 07-11-101 20:12:21 again s/b you, again 07-11-101 20:12:46 hi 07-11-101 20:12:53 hi Rat-Salad 07-11-101 20:13:28 Because of the problems I have was having with my machine, esp. WordPro, I'm afraid there isn't much of an Agenda tonight. 07-11-101 20:13:55 I do have a very brief one, in the form of a simple text file. 07-11-101 20:13:59 ok, then can I post the email report from Hoss? 07-11-101 20:14:09 err...Abel :) 07-11-101 20:14:18 Now I can either email it to the WD list, or....? 07-11-101 20:14:29 not much to say about that really 07-11-101 20:15:15 I was going to post here 07-11-101 20:15:35 I'm afraid I didn't get one to Hoss. :-( I was too busy finishing up my article. 07-11-101 20:15:47 hmmmmmmm 07-11-101 20:15:57 Can I send it via IRS, or should I email it? 07-11-101 20:16:09 IRS s/b IRC 07-11-101 20:16:14 :-) 07-11-101 20:16:16 mandie_: sumthin to report regarding the server? 07-11-101 20:16:24 whew...finally! :) 07-11-101 20:16:38 yes, the hdd's were installed according to Mark and Wilson 07-11-101 20:16:54 I haven't been on the server since they were installed. I have 2 off days at work this 07-11-101 20:16:59 weekend and hope to spend some of that time tweaking tuning and installing stuff on 07-11-101 20:17:06 VOICE1. Mark has a copy of the HDD layout and will be as informative as I would be 07-11-101 20:17:10 were I to be present at the meeting. 07-11-101 20:17:18 I have a print out of the partitionin layout right infront of me 07-11-101 20:17:40 This is great! 07-11-101 20:17:48 Abel told me we'd probably start installing stuff Friday 07-11-101 20:17:55 * Longstaff sends congratulations to all participants for the successful upgrade 07-11-101 20:18:53 madodel: do you have anything to add? 07-11-101 20:20:33 * Longstaff sends congratulations to all participants for the successful upgrade 07-11-101 20:20:46 oops 07-11-101 20:20:58 opps? 07-11-101 20:21:07 * Longstaff will try entering with the other foot :) 07-11-101 20:21:31 *** CTCP PING (mandie_) (#warpdoctor) 07-11-101 20:21:36 hmm 07-11-101 20:21:47 Jeremy, can you summarize the partitioning layout for us? 07-11-101 20:22:04 sure 07-11-101 20:22:15 mandie: not really 07-11-101 20:22:28 well, Mark could do it :) 07-11-101 20:22:38 the information in front of my came from Mark 07-11-101 20:22:54 Came to me from Wilson 07-11-101 20:22:55 me 07-11-101 20:23:13 you want to take this one Mark? 07-11-101 20:23:47 *** kvr (kvroberts@63-165-222-90.dslnorthwest.net) has joined #WarpDoctor [20:23:47] 07-11-101 20:23:48 New 18Gig drive - G: V3 Voice_Data_2 JFS 17429 L 07-11-101 20:25:00 The 36Gig drive basically has been partitioned to mirror copy the existing drives 07-11-101 20:25:06 R: V4 Repl_Boot HPFS 2000 07-11-101 20:25:14 S: V5 Repl_V_Apps JFS 6437 07-11-101 20:25:24 T: V6 Repl_V_Data JFS 17498 07-11-101 20:26:39 That is about all i know at the moment 07-11-101 20:28:28 Thanks, everyone. 07-11-101 20:28:55 *** Signoff: mandie_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:28:55] 07-11-101 20:29:20 *** kvr has left #warpdoctor [20:29:20] 07-11-101 20:29:20 *** kvr (kvroberts@63-165-222-90.dslnorthwest.net) has joined #warpdoctor [20:29:20] 07-11-101 20:29:21 as for the website this week, nothing has changed. 07-11-101 20:29:31 I wonder if mandie is coming back. 07-11-101 20:29:32 Also I forgot that there is a U: drive U: V7 Repl_V_Data _2 JFS 9Gig 07-11-101 20:31:13 OK, Jeremy. We need to set up a second attempt to send my articles from Focus on OS/2 to you. Jeremy has graciously 07-11-101 20:32:02 actually Walter now would be a good time.. just give me a few minutes to set things up 07-11-101 20:32:06 offered to help convert them into a more generic format. When that is done, a LOT more articles will be added to WD 07-11-101 20:32:11 in one shot. 07-11-101 20:33:27 OK. 07-11-101 20:35:01 hehe I have to find my proftpd config file 07-11-101 20:36:09 To everyone: I have posted the Agenda for tonight's meeting to the WD list. You should get it in a few minutes. 07-11-101 20:36:57 ahh /etc duh! 07-11-101 20:37:20 *Rat-Salad* Let's at least wait until after the chat. I'd be less distracted and tired tomorrow if that's OK. 07-11-101 20:38:45 In the meantime, let's go through the items on the status report list. 07-11-101 20:40:27 Ceilidh seems to be encountering some resistance in VOICE that I don't fully understand. In any case I'm to draft a memo 07-11-101 20:40:31 *Rat-Salad* no problem 07-11-101 20:40:46 *Rat-Salad* im going to let you upload to my UNIX box 07-11-101 20:41:05 *Rat-Salad* username: walter 07-11-101 20:41:14 *Rat-Salad* password: aboutfuture 07-11-101 20:42:08 in overview terms, what's the general basis for the obhections? 07-11-101 20:42:11 and send it out to get approval from the members. I just haven't had time to do it yet, for various reasons, including my 07-11-101 20:42:56 recovery from my stay in the hospital. 07-11-101 20:44:10 The argument goes that because the money in the treasury came from the members, the members should decide how to to spend it. 07-11-101 20:44:45 Walter: did you get that information in your message window? 07-11-101 20:45:06 I have no problem with that whatever, but that principle isn't applied consistently. 07-11-101 20:45:22 *Rat-Salad* Yes, thanks. 07-11-101 20:45:46 *Rat-Salad* :) 07-11-101 20:46:17 Longstaff: and no has been able or willing to explain why they want the members to vote on a lousy $149 item but felt willing 07-11-101 20:47:23 maybe an open announcement on the intended use of the software would generate the necessary enthusiasm......to me it's a great idea 07-11-101 20:47:29 to spend a much larger sum without the members approval. I would go along with either philosophy, but I don't know what the 07-11-101 20:47:55 basis is. (Judy is going to kill me for saying all this.) 07-11-101 20:48:36 I'd really like to see that SSL cert put to use on the VOICE site 07-11-101 20:49:40 Rat-Salad: Are you referring to the Warpstock registration, or something else? 07-11-101 20:49:46 sorry, that could be considered a bit off topic 07-11-101 20:50:18 Maybe, but I'd still like to know. 07-11-101 20:50:25 no... what I had in mind is membership registration 07-11-101 20:50:40 voice accepting credit cards ;) 07-11-101 20:50:47 OK, I see what you mean. 07-11-101 20:51:19 that's fairly commonplace these days 07-11-101 20:51:30 I also thing that this may be more appealing to some people (me included) 07-11-101 20:51:33 think 07-11-101 20:51:51 I think we'll get there, it may just take a little longer than we hoped. 07-11-101 20:52:20 OK, we should probably get back on topic. 07-11-101 20:52:28 hehe 07-11-101 20:55:58 Longstaff: To go back to your statement about your enthusiasm for Ceilidh, let me just say, then I guess it's up to me to 07-11-101 20:56:55 "get my butt into motion", write the memo, and publish it. I hope more people feel like you do! 07-11-101 20:57:13 *** DSOM_eCS (~DSOM_eCS@cuscon5447.tstt.net.tt) has joined #WarpDoctor [20:57:13] 07-11-101 20:57:24 *** Sector (andreww@c5T2-106.015.popsite.net) has joined #warpdoctor [20:57:24] 07-11-101 20:58:02 Walter: i bet a bunch would once they got a hint of what you have in mind for it 07-11-101 20:59:01 *** #WarpDoctor Mode change: +o Walter 07-11-101 20:59:24 While writing my article for next month's newsletter, I used a template from Focus on OS/2. One of the features I plastered 07-11-101 21:02:04 all over it was "Talkback", which would allow readers to post to a forum or bulletin at the click of a mouse button. Of course I had comment all the references to out because VOICE has no equivalent feature. (Email is not quite the same thing.) 07-11-101 21:03:22 I'm looking forward to being able to reactivate that feature using the facilities of Ceilidh. 07-11-101 21:03:46 And that's only one feature! 07-11-101 21:03:55 I think it'll be nice too 07-11-101 21:04:27 I don't think the Agenda is ever going to make it! 07-11-101 21:04:45 hmm I could have told you the list is slow 07-11-101 21:05:01 usually takes about an hour or so for a post of come through 07-11-101 21:06:57 They should give a New President a list of "What questions to ask" 07-11-101 21:08:09 That concludes the Status Reports (E) 07-11-101 21:09:15 The next item is the very noticeable drop in WD list activity in the past 2-4 weeks.(F) 07-11-101 21:09:22 *** mandie (~judymc@192.168.1.1) has joined #warpdoctor [21:09:22] 07-11-101 21:09:24 I will finish the meeting time survey by this weekend 07-11-101 21:10:03 I'd like to hear any input as to whether is a problem or not. 07-11-101 21:10:32 Walter: part of that [the drop] is server related - i know i was generally waiting for that to get together and i guess a lotta other ppl were too 07-11-101 21:10:40 Thanks, R-S. 07-11-101 21:11:40 Good point, Longstaff. Even I found myself waiting for it a few times. 07-11-101 21:12:13 has there ever been much activity on the list? 07-11-101 21:13:13 discussion of ham and eggs is expectedly hindered by a total lack of ham, and eggs :) 07-11-101 21:13:21 Oh yes! Take a look at late April-early June. 07-11-101 21:13:58 then we gotta make some ham and eggs don't we? 07-11-101 21:14:06 Green eggs and ham? 07-11-101 21:14:19 no matter the color :) 07-11-101 21:14:21 BTW, the Agenda is up! Don't expect anything fancy, though. 07-11-101 21:14:54 DSOM_eCS needs a new monitor i think :) 07-11-101 21:15:10 hehe 07-11-101 21:15:35 I've had my share of green monitors and its not fun 07-11-101 21:15:55 *** kvr has left #warpdoctor [21:15:55] 07-11-101 21:16:57 Rat-Salad: i know.......at the other extreme i was looking at a 42" plasma screen this weekend 07-11-101 21:17:36 hehe geesh... I've seen those things at stores... 07-11-101 21:17:43 Nah, I was just quoting Dr. Suess. 07-11-101 21:17:50 to be so big thier resolution is pathetic 07-11-101 21:17:56 Got a monitor with a yellow phosfor sitting the closet (though it's got a green tinted glare screen) 07-11-101 21:18:07 Jeremy, when you said you will have meeting time survey finished, could you elaborate, please? 07-11-101 21:19:10 Hmmm, Amber display perhaps? 07-11-101 21:19:21 Well, it's done, but I was acting on your earlier suggestion.. of having the times multiple choice.. was kinda waiting on a list of suitable times 07-11-101 21:20:31 Was it an email or web-poll? 07-11-101 21:21:09 a web poll.. the page I showed you last week 07-11-101 21:21:21 http://www.warpdoctor.org/survey.html 07-11-101 21:22:33 *madodel* the article you sent me is the WS2K article 07-11-101 21:22:45 * DSOM_eCS is Away. 07-11-101 21:23:01 *** PsiFire (PsiFire@204-40.dialup.cloud9.net) has joined #warpdoctor [21:23:01] 07-11-101 21:23:31 hiya11 PsiFire 07-11-101 21:23:43 hey...fancy seeing you here 07-11-101 21:24:00 I don't know how this happened, (I could guess, though) but there's been a miscommunication. Mark has merged a version of 07-11-101 21:24:23 the WarpDoctor poll with a VOICE poll. 07-11-101 21:24:30 oopsey 07-11-101 21:24:58 heh 07-11-101 21:25:20 Walter: I didn't do anything 07-11-101 21:25:36 I authorized that one to go out because it looked OK. I lost about two weeks worth of email, so that confused me a bit. 07-11-101 21:25:43 Good. 07-11-101 21:26:52 madodel: But you are working on a VOICE email poll, right? 07-11-101 21:27:54 Walter: I drafted a post about WD and meeting times over a week ago. jeremy offered to put the poll as a web poll. 07-11-101 21:28:30 BTW, As far as I know we have received zero response to the Warpstock post sent out a couple weeks ago. 07-11-101 21:29:23 madodel: OK, I guessed I missed the last sentence. I did get message to the ADMIN list from Judy, I think, suggesting you 07-11-101 21:30:23 suggesting you add "a lil" poll regarding WD polls. 07-11-101 21:30:46 strike suggesting you 07-11-101 21:32:54 OK, Jeremy, what have you posted, if anything, by way of a poll to WD? 07-11-101 21:33:08 And what is the URL? 07-11-101 21:35:05 http://www.warpdoctor.org/survey.html 07-11-101 21:35:46 pretty much I just need to make a spinner button for the time.. 07-11-101 21:36:24 between what time & what time is my only question? how early, how late (EST/EDT) 07-11-101 21:38:11 Mark has drafted an email that contain some good starting places: 07-11-101 21:38:11 07-11-101 21:39:07 DATE Saturday, Sunday, TIMES: 1 EDT, 2 EDT 07-11-101 21:39:45 Both Dates and Times contain boxes for "Other". 07-11-101 21:39:45 huh' 07-11-101 21:40:20 What does the group think of those meeting times? 07-11-101 21:40:46 Besides, Jeremy, that is. 07-11-101 21:41:44 I mean.. for example a time span between 8:00 AM, and 10:00 PM 07-11-101 21:41:45 Walter: That's because that was in an email, whereas Jeremy is doing a web poll. 07-11-101 21:41:50 *** madodel0*=+madodel@OS2-rocks2.msns.str.ptd.net 07-11-101 21:42:26 An email doesn't allow for all the content a web page can 07-11-101 21:43:13 Then I guess we should do a web-based poll. 07-11-101 21:43:14 btw.. where should the poll sumbitions be forwarded to?? 07-11-101 21:43:52 Actually, I was about to ask the same questions. 07-11-101 21:44:08 at the time I have the script sending to me 07-11-101 21:44:18 this 07-11-101 21:44:58 I think we need to get a annoucement together for the news sites too. 07-11-101 21:44:59 Jeremy, I have some experience with that as well from my About background. We can talk privately about that. 07-11-101 21:45:20 ok 07-11-101 21:46:54 If anyone has some additional times/dates for WD meetings, please email them asap to Jeremy. He will give you his email address. 07-11-101 21:47:31 I think it should be pretty open though as far as day of the week goes 07-11-101 21:47:39 so I listed every day 07-11-101 21:48:36 Just display a range between say 8AM and 10PM EST/EDT with the GMT equivalents 07-11-101 21:49:14 yeah 07-11-101 21:50:03 You'll find it easier to accommodate people from both continents on the weekend, though. 07-11-101 21:51:31 * Sector notes if it's 08:00am EST/EDT someone is is going to be doing the logging... 07-11-101 21:51:49 *** Signoff: mandie (irc.us.webbnet.org irc.fl.webbnet.org) [21:51:49] 07-11-101 21:52:10 There was a contentious Warpstock Board meeting a couple of nights ago, which didn't end until 5:30am Belgian time. The only reason Luc, the Vice President could preside at the meeting was because he was on vacation. 07-11-101 21:52:50 I think the point of the poll is to see when people want the meetings.. I really don't think we want to limit them too much... your right most people will probably pick Friday, Saturday, or Sunday 07-11-101 21:53:13 Understood. 07-11-101 21:57:04 OK, if anyone has any additional comments regards dates and times, they send them to wfmetcalf@wmetcalf.com (that's me), and I'll get them to Jeremy. 07-11-101 21:57:38 Otherwise, if there's nothing further to discuss, I move the meeting be adjourned. 07-11-101 21:58:01 * Longstaff seconds 07-11-101 21:58:33 erm.. I thirds 07-11-101 21:58:58 All in favour? 07-11-101 21:59:07 * Rat-Salad is hungry 07-11-101 21:59:24 aye 07-11-101 21:59:48 *** lynn has left #warpdoctor [21:59:48] 07-11-101 21:59:54 Motion is carried. 07-11-101 22:00:10 lets eat 07-11-101 22:00:12 bbl 07-11-101 22:00:57 good night all 07-11-101 22:01:03 I'm going to watch "Voyager". Walter is a Trekkie. 07-11-101 22:01:13 Goodnight everyone! 07-11-101 22:01:18 *** Log Terminated.