06-13-101 17:01:02 First, about a week ago, Rat-Salad emailed me offering to look after the Website for WD. 06-13-101 17:01:21 He's does this as his profession. 06-13-101 17:02:09 I was really encouraged by that news. I'll have more about it later. 06-13-101 17:18:23 Rat-Salad: you might want to post the url to the warpdoctor mailing list for comment/suggestions :) 06-13-101 17:18:26 OK, let's move on item C. 06-13-101 17:19:51 Report on state and readiness of DB2 on VOICE1 06-13-101 17:20:07 Has anyone talked to Abel recently? 06-13-101 17:20:28 I sent him email today and requested a status report...but I guess he hasn't read it as yet 06-13-101 17:20:53 Abel has been really busy 06-13-101 17:22:23 Agenda Item D 06-13-101 17:23:00 Appointment of standing (sub) committees 06-13-101 17:24:01 I've determined we need at least 3 already, and problem more as we go to easy communication and hopefully 06-13-101 17:24:23 speed progress, but I'm certainly open to suggestions. 06-13-101 17:25:30 D1 DB2 Committee _ the importance of this is already obvious. 06-13-101 17:25:48 question 06-13-101 17:25:54 Fire away. 06-13-101 17:26:20 is this committee going to be made up of those familiar with DB2 06-13-101 17:27:18 Hopefully, at least some of the people will be. Several of our people have indicated DB2 experience. 06-13-101 17:27:29 this reminds me.. I know someone who showed interest if helping with database, scripting, etc... 06-13-101 17:27:33 Not everyone needs to be thought. 06-13-101 17:27:39 if=in 06-13-101 17:28:29 Walter: a problem that you may encounter by only addressing these issues in IRC, is that those that are unable to make meetings etc, may very well be qualified and interested in assisting 06-13-101 17:29:06 I agrree that, it's really late here in Spain 06-13-101 17:29:13 My initial suggestions for the DB2 community would be Abel, Mark, Judy, + other volunteers. 06-13-101 17:29:20 and in Europe 06-13-101 17:29:29 Delfi: thank you very much for coming 06-13-101 17:29:52 Delfi: there will be a log that I will request be posted to the warpdoctor mailing list until such time that it's available on our website 06-13-101 17:30:02 right... the guy I was speaking of is in Germany 06-13-101 17:30:54 Judy, maybe I'm missing your point, but the committees would exist only in the IRC's; they could exist 06-13-101 17:31:08 in real time as well. 06-13-101 17:31:30 Communication could take place via email and the discussion forums as well as here. 06-13-101 17:31:31 Rat-Salad: Do I know that guy? :-) 06-13-101 17:31:37 I feel you're limiting yourself with that 06-13-101 17:32:14 OK, how would you improve on the idea? 06-13-101 17:32:32 "if" there was someone (such as in Germany) that was on a committee but unable to participate in IRC, then he could keep us informed of the status of his area 06-13-101 17:32:40 Should each committee have it's own mail list? 06-13-101 17:32:51 madodel0: it was Ltning 06-13-101 17:33:01 R-S: He said the same to me 06-13-101 17:33:02 I would also post in the mailing list the need for people for specific committees 06-13-101 17:33:06 Yup, someone we know then 06-13-101 17:33:13 let them know what will be required of them 06-13-101 17:33:17 and then ask for volunteers 06-13-101 17:33:22 Good idea. 06-13-101 17:33:42 then....... :) 06-13-101 17:34:21 I would put someone who is VERY knowledgeable in each area as the head honcho of that committee 06-13-101 17:34:50 just my 2 cents worth... :) 06-13-101 17:35:18 Judy, you know the people in VOICE far better than I: who is the person for DB2 if its not Abel? 06-13-101 17:35:36 it does not have to be anyone from VOICE 06-13-101 17:35:56 as far as I know...Abel is not that experienced with DB2 06-13-101 17:35:57 OK, in the World? 06-13-101 17:36:01 lol 06-13-101 17:36:15 let's let ppl volunteer... 06-13-101 17:36:27 let them "apply" so to speak 06-13-101 17:36:33 Let's have people post their experience 06-13-101 17:36:46 ask for volunteers and also ask for a little of their background in the specific areas 06-13-101 17:36:50 sounds like a good idea 06-13-101 17:36:54 madodel: exactly 06-13-101 17:37:48 Several weeks ago I asked people to email me and tell me there experiences, what they liked to etc., 06-13-101 17:38:01 and I got about 4-5 responses. 06-13-101 17:38:08 mine is still in my "Drafts" folder :( 06-13-101 17:38:16 suggestion 06-13-101 17:38:21 How about we put it out on the News sites, get more people involved 06-13-101 17:38:36 So I'm a little dubious, but I'll go along with it and give it a second go. 06-13-101 17:38:49 you tell them what you need and and what's expected and you will get alot more responses 06-13-101 17:38:57 Sounds good! 06-13-101 17:39:04 I can only help linking the project to the os2spain.org project, also in construction 06-13-101 17:39:31 Delfi: plz don't link to that url that was posted here 06-13-101 17:39:36 As long as I don't have to speak Spanish. 06-13-101 17:39:39 that is for test purposes only 06-13-101 17:39:46 www.warpdoctor.org 06-13-101 17:39:54 ^^^^^ is the site 06-13-101 17:40:27 the link will be more ambitious not just the url 06-13-101 17:40:39 Delfi: thank you :) 06-13-101 17:41:04 some people have hardware/2 pages 06-13-101 17:41:06 Delfi: can you translate from English to Spanish? 06-13-101 17:41:31 sorry...I'm way off topic here 06-13-101 17:41:37 yes, I can translate, and some friends had a translations/2 list 06-13-101 17:41:54 Judy, since this was your brain-child, how would you like to prepare the draft copy of the "application"?? 06-13-101 17:42:42 I really don't have the time right now...Vacation Bible School all week and my daughter and granddaughter are arriving Friday morning 06-13-101 17:42:45 sorry :( 06-13-101 17:43:30 just make it very informal.... 06-13-101 17:43:38 We need ppl for the DB2 committee 06-13-101 17:43:58 they should have knowledge of........ 06-13-101 17:44:37 you get the drift 06-13-101 17:45:00 this drift is turning into rapids. 06-13-101 17:45:05 lol 06-13-101 17:45:15 make it very simple...on you and them 06-13-101 17:45:25 but, you must let them know what they will need to do 06-13-101 17:47:23 To continue with Agenda item D on sub-committees: 06-13-101 17:48:35 We will need a committee to look after the Web-site. (Basically, this means a group of people to assist R-S) 06-13-101 17:49:22 that would be helpful.. 06-13-101 17:49:31 Finally, We will need a committe to build and look after the User Interface. 06-13-101 17:50:19 We probably don't need to worry too much about this last one till the project is further along. 06-13-101 17:51:08 Rat-Salad, Would like to put together at least a draft of an application 06-13-101 17:51:41 giving what you expect from your volunteers, and what they will be doing, etc.? 06-13-101 17:51:52 Walter: explain that.. 06-13-101 17:52:19 Would like==Would you like 06-13-101 17:52:44 ohh hehe :) 06-13-101 17:54:23 I can help him some... 06-13-101 17:54:31 If you have the need for one person to do a particular task, then you should have 06-13-101 17:54:54 an application for that "position" as well. 06-13-101 17:54:55 Chrissy is my proof reader, and spell checker :) 06-13-101 17:55:32 I love delegating! 06-13-101 17:55:50 I get what your saying Walter.. and it may be needed in the not so distant future when I have the looking down pat 06-13-101 17:56:09 errr look.. 06-13-101 17:56:50 first comes the look than comes content 06-13-101 17:57:16 Sounds good to me. 06-13-101 17:57:32 Agenda item E. 06-13-101 17:57:55 Development Group 06-13-101 17:58:46 I'd say once we're ready to put in content, we could have a person for maintaining the content of each section of the site 06-13-101 17:58:54 This an idea I've briefly mentioned a couple of times before, and I'd like to go into it a bit more. 06-13-101 17:58:58 sorry to interupt :) 06-13-101 17:59:12 Go ahead. 06-13-101 17:59:42 please continue Walter, I said what I needed to say 06-13-101 18:01:01 I believe we should consider setting up a web-based discussion group (like a mailing list), but one that 06-13-101 18:02:02 requires a password to enter. Such an arrangement gives us two advantages: 06-13-101 18:02:48 The people registered (with valid passwords) would constitute a valid "development group" 06-13-101 18:03:02 that could work out good.. 06-13-101 18:03:09 per IBM's requirements. 06-13-101 18:03:35 then that should be a seperate discussion board 06-13-101 18:03:55 in Yahoogroups you can setup this sort of list, we have some of them (secret, memebers only) 06-13-101 18:04:00 Second, such a group would give us the controls necessary to limit access to WD in the beginning to just 06-13-101 18:04:02 you want anyone to be able to come in and lurk and possible step up to the plate when and if they feel they can be of assistance 06-13-101 18:04:37 this group (or a larger or smaller) which would be important during the initial stages of development. 06-13-101 18:04:59 I think your going in the right direction... gotta get organized 06-13-101 18:06:35 Right now there are several problems, but most of them are probably temporary. VOICE's general policy is to 06-13-101 18:07:32 be self-sufficient and to avoid using outside services like YahooGroups. It's also a policy I concur with. 06-13-101 18:08:19 Second. That means we need to find a freeware or shareware software package to setup discussion forum. 06-13-101 18:08:34 I agree that, it's only to asses your idea of a password protected dsicussion group 06-13-101 18:09:01 I'll look around for a message board system 06-13-101 18:09:03 Third. Abel, whom I've contacted about this is extremely busy right now and hasn't been able to get back to me. 06-13-101 18:09:21 Rat-salad: talk to Abel...I believe he has Cecilia 06-13-101 18:09:39 ahh ok.. ill do that 06-13-101 18:09:45 oops...ceilidh 06-13-101 18:09:47 Can you describe Cecillia? 06-13-101 18:10:07 is this high on the priority list? 06-13-101 18:10:07 it's a msg board that can be used with OS/2 06-13-101 18:10:49 * Judy is looking for url 06-13-101 18:10:51 * XRange like way Judy thinks 06-13-101 18:10:57 :) 06-13-101 18:11:03 Not particularly, but we will need it in place when we start putting transactions into WD. 06-13-101 18:11:25 right 06-13-101 18:11:52 http://lilikoi.com/os2_frame.html 06-13-101 18:13:02 hmm doesn't look too tough to set up 06-13-101 18:13:18 Rat: harder than it looks :) 06-13-101 18:13:40 hehe thats usually how it is :) 06-13-101 18:14:12 you think peice of cake... three hours later your pulling your hair out 06-13-101 18:19:05 Well, that's all I have on the official agenda, except for one thing. 06-13-101 18:19:34 Did we appoint anyone to get a report on the DB2 Status on VOICE1? 06-13-101 18:20:30 I will be away for the next two days myself. Can someone ask Abel? 06-13-101 18:20:38 as I stated...I emailed Abel for the status.... 06-13-101 18:20:42 Judy, since you've already emailed him, would you consider yourself appointed? 06-13-101 18:20:50 when I get it I will post to the WD mailing list 06-13-101 18:21:00 * Judy is appointed :) 06-13-101 18:21:06 Good enough. 06-13-101 18:21:07 im afraid Abel is the only one who can answer that.. i will ask him tonight.. he's just been so busy here the past week or so 06-13-101 18:21:31 I hereby open the meeting for New Business or Discussion. 06-13-101 18:22:31 can you subscribe me to the WD list? 06-13-101 18:23:57 Delfi_R: Just send an email to majormajor@os2voice.org with: SUBSCRIBE WARPDOCTOR Youremailaddress 06-13-101 18:25:45 done 06-13-101 18:28:27 We are adjourned if no one has any new business. 06-13-101 18:28:29 9 06-13-101 18:28:31 8 06-13-101 18:28:33 7 06-13-101 18:28:35 6 06-13-101 18:28:38 5 06-13-101 18:28:41 4 06-13-101 18:28:42 3 06-13-101 18:28:45 2 06-13-101 18:28:47 1 06-13-101 18:28:56 Adjourned.